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PostPosted: Fri Sep 04, 2009 7:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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just myself and Steve as river leaders
Isn't Chris T going to be there on Sunday?

Just me so far for the Sunday day trip, anyone else fancy it?

Description of the lower river stolen from the centre's website:
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The lower Tryweryn can be accessed from any point along the upper section of the Tryweryn (from the top-site to immediately upstream of Tyn Cornel camp-site).  There are no agreed access/ egress points from below this point to the egress point in Bala (see below).

Accessing the river from non-agreed points could upset relations with landholders adjacent to the river and potentially threaten this extension to access on the river.

The lower Tryweryn is a classic run and is a stretch of river that every novice boater should cut their whitewater teeth on. A classic grade II+ it has a wilder feel to it than the upper section and should be run with a little caution as it is more susceptible to welsh river hazards such as fallen trees. The river is continuous class II pushing towards class III, especially during larger releases and after heavy rain but don't let its grade put you off – it's a perfect trip for whitewater novices and more experienced kayakers can practice their skills before running Bala Mill Falls.

This drop is at the end of the lower section and is one of the first class IV rapids that many paddlers attempt – don't let anyone tell you it's not a class IV! There's a short technical lead in before you set up for the main drop (best run river right or the left-hand chute is a possible, easier alternative).

Below Bala Mill Falls , continue down to just below the main road bridge (A494) and egress out into the convenient car park. Below this are some small, innocuous but very dangerous weirs - don't be tempted!


Most of the above names are more than ready for this run, anyone who was on the Washburn last month will certainly be fine. It will be their first "proper" river trip (the Washburn is extended park & play) and for me that's what paddling is all about.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 10:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK just to clarify

We go Friday night, do the safety course, stop Saturday night, then have the option of going on a day trip with Steve.

If this is the case Steve:

Am i able to go ( ability wise )
can i have a lift with my boat in the truck?

If yes to the above i am in.!

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Mike
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 11:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Mike, those doing the safety course arrive friday night and do the course on the saturday.  The course finishes around 4pm so if anyone doesn't want to run the river on the sunday they could either stay on the saturday night or simply go home after the course.  Steve is not doing the course and is driving up on sunday morning to meet us in the centre cafe at 11am.

I don't know how much paddling you have got in since the last time I saw you (I have been on holiday), but if you are happy to accept that it may be a challenging day for you then paddle on the sunday as well.  As Steve and myself have already mentioned, once you are on the river there is no access to return to the centre.

The safety course on the saturday will give you experience of being in grade 3/4 water as a swimmer, so a swim in the lower section the next day shouldn't be a problem (should this happen!), so yes I would say you can do the lower section on the sunday.

With regard to getting your boat up there there are a couple of possibilities, you don't need to be in a kayak on the saturday so perhaps Steve could take your boat up on the sunday, failing this we could arrange a lift on the Friday.

Are you joining us sunday to do the rammy run or will you be down on wedsnesday so that we can sort out what we are doing about transport?
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 8:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Both Me and Matt are planning to be there on Sunday and up for a paddle.

Carl Sorry couldn't make last Wednesday Blinking work, will however we will be there on Wednesday with cash in hand.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 9:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We now have ten people who have confirmed they are going over the weekend.  Whoever arrives first at the Bunkhouse could perhaps ask if we could possibly eat around 9pm.  For the course itself there is a kit list:

Normal paddling gear, but no shorts!

They may be able to loan drysuits, in which case they ask that fleeces are worn underneath.  The course will cover:

Introduction

Safe swimming

Throwlines

Chest harnesses

Foot and body entrapments and escape form stoppers.

If anyone wants more info please ask.

On the Sunday we will paddle the full river.  Meeting the day trippers in the cafe at 11am.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 11:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sunday's daytrippers confirmed as Me, Chris H and Mad Andy.

So one more space left if anyone's up for it.

See you 11:00 Sunday although we'll try to be there earlier as parking might be a problem given that the festival's going on. I might give someone a ring Saturday night to confirm.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 6:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Please note that the Bunkhouse would like to serve dinner at 8.30pm on Friday.  

The safety course starts at 9am on Saturday and finishes at 4pm.  Last weekend the centre was open until 6.30pm so can anyone guess what is going through my mind?

The water information line is updated later in the week and details are below:

Water Information Line Number 01678 520826

Release level restrictions to prevent environmental damage
No canoeing/kayaking below 7 cumecs
No rafting below 9 cumecs

Grading Guide

Release (cumecs) Upper section Lower section  
7 3 grade 2 – 3

(with one grade 4 rapid)

7.5 – 10 3 / 4 grade 2 – 3

(with one grade 4 rapid)

10 – 16 3+ / 4 grade 2 – 3

(with one grade 4 rapid)

Everyone should be okay to paddle the top section before the graveyard, so we could have a bit of a play.  Of course it is going to be busy on the river and the 'big boys' will be out showing how play boats should be used.  I don't know if rafts will be running but we will see.  

See you Friday
Carl

PS The Graveyard used to be called Daisey dell until a couple of weeks ago but we don't want to scare people so don't mention this!  

No seriously the river runs through what used to be a church graveyard, hence the name.  However, as Graham B will tell you it could be called the graveyard because every rock tells a story.

Oh and one more thing!  It goes without saying that we will be driving in North Wales and therefore I will give my usual warning.  Keep to the speed limit!
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 7:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can i have an address to the bunkhouse...

and are we at the national watersports centre?
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 7:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unfortunately I have had to change my plans.  I won't be able to make it down on the Saturday night so will head down early Sunday morning to do the public safety course (at least that way you can't all scare the
c%@P out of me with tales of how your safety course went).  
With any luck I will be able to find you on the river once my course finishes on the Sunday so I can heckle from the bank (or maybe throw a rope if needed with my newly developed skills!)
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 8:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The address of the bunkhouse is:

Tyn-yr-Erw Farm Bunkhouse
Glanrafon
Corwen
Denbighshire
LL21 0HE


Directions from BALA
Take A484 towards Corwen for 5 miles to Bethel Turn left and follow the lane for 2 miles to post box Turn sharp left signposted to Soar Follow the lae for a short distance until it turns right. Do not turn right: Go straight ahead up lane with No Exit sign We are the first farm on the right

Directions from CORWEN
Stay on the A5 westbound until you see the Goat Hotel on your right. Turn left here. Follow this lane for 2˝ miles to the cross roads by a post box Fork right here, signposted to Soar Follow this lane for a short distance until it turns right. Do not turn right: Go straight ahead up lane with No Exit sign We are the first farm on the right

Follow this link for a map:

http://www.streetmap.co.uk/newmap...map.srf&searchp=newsearch.srf

The course is at the:

Canolfan Tryweryn
National Whitewater Centre
Frongoch
Bala
Gwynedd
LL23 7NU
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 8:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BobM wrote:
at least that way you can't all scare the
c%@P out of me with tales of how your safety course went).  


As if we would! And remember, if you can be heard screaming then at least your head is not underwater!


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