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Mel Stoddart
Joined: 27 Nov 2007 Posts: 207
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Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 1:17 pm Post subject: Rolling challenge |
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I have a challenge for anyone brave enough to accept it....
Actually it's more of a bribe
Whoever can figure out what I'm doing wrong and teach me how to roll will not only receive my eternal thanks but also a free drink! I do draw the line at pink Guinness tho
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Steve T Secretary & Website Editor

Joined: 14 Sep 2005 Posts: 804
Location: Keawyed City
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Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 10:41 am Post subject: |
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Mine's a pint.
Step 1: Come out paddling
Step 2: We can take it from there
Seriously, you've been paddling long enough such that a couple of pool sessions should sort it. The main things I tell people (which might be wrong) are to work on the hip movement (that's more important than the paddle - you can roll with no paddle) and to slow it all down to get yourslf orientated. We're a month-ish away from the pool so if you can wait until then you'll be fine.
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CarlS Chairman & Events Coordinator

Joined: 03 Nov 2007 Posts: 389
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Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 6:46 pm Post subject: |
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| Steve T wrote: | you'll be fine.
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Isn't that one of my catch phrases?
Seriously though, I agree with Steve, a few pool sessions will sort you out.
My personal belief is that you can break the learning to roll process into several stages:
1) Develop a really good high brace support stroke (you should be able to get your head completely underwater. Lots of hip flick practice off the side of the pool.
2) Learn to do a half roll, eg come up on the same side you went over on, or in other words do a high brace in which you tip up completely and pause for a couple of seconds before doing the hip flick.
3) Start to do a full roll in the pool.
4) Do an outside roll wearing full kit (this could be done in the pool wearing a helmet and BA)
5) Start to develop your roll in moving water (play spot at Burrs followed by under the road bridge), I think this is actually a little easier to do since the flow can help.
6) Once you are confident, next time you capsize, get your head down on your cockpit (to protect your face), count to three (let the boat settle down) then set up (knuckles touching the side of your boat) and roll (prepare to do a support stroke as you come up).
Once you can roll it is always worth trying, after all the alternative is a swim. |
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Steve T Secretary & Website Editor

Joined: 14 Sep 2005 Posts: 804
Location: Keawyed City
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Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 12:17 pm Post subject: |
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Good article on rolling here:
http://www.kentcanoes.co.uk/docum..._Canoe_Article_Eskimo_Rolling.pdf
There's also loads of stuff on YouTube but be wary of that as any halfwit (I should know) can put stuff up without it being any good.
I also have the Eric Jackson "awesome" Bracing & Rolling DVD which is useful, if you can understand American. That makes it "super-easy" so let me know if you want to borrow that, Dude. That makes Carl's point that you need a good high brace before starting to roll - that's why you need some paddling experience, which you have. Complete beginners often turn up to the pool expecting to learn roll, and they can be disappointed when they're told that they have to learn to paddle first. I usually suggest that it's more important to stay upright in the first place than to roll up after testing your helmet.
If you want to wait for the pool before nailing the roll once and for all, you can still spend useful time in the river working on braces and seeing how brave you can get. Keep some springiness in your arm (avoid over extending it) and think of the paddle as stopping you from going over, before using your hips to bring the boat back up (rather than using the paddle blade to muscle yourself up).
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Mel Stoddart
Joined: 27 Nov 2007 Posts: 207
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Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 12:45 pm Post subject: |
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Cheers guys, how can I fail
I'll be at Burrs tomorrow and think I'll leave the rolling 'till I get a chance to go to the pool.
As you say tho, if I get my braces sorted out there shouldn't be much of a need to be able to roll  |
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Bradshaws

Joined: 14 Nov 2008 Posts: 74
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