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CarlS · Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 10:00 pm Post subject: Burrs 16th April

Okay so I took my first (and second) swim of the club's outdoor meetings. Having given some thought to the reason, I can now give the offical story.

I was playing at the squirt spot and got my boat nicely upright, (feeling fairly pleased with myself), unfortunately my recovery was not as good and I capsized. Okay not a big problem, I have been in this situation a number of times and usually roll back up without a problem, this was not the case tonight. I started to roll but something seemed wrong, I tried again and again but it was not working so I bailed. I got back in my boat and decided to have another go, same story.

Upon reflection I can blame the 'utility belt' and throwline I was wearing around my waist, this equipment changed the balance of my boat and hence my rolls failed.

This is my offical excuse, although it could be that I'm just crap

Carl

Steve T · Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 11:25 am Post subject:

The first time you went over I wasn’t really watching as of course you would be expected to roll up first time, but you did seem to come up most of the way quite quickly, and then floundered a bit with some support strokes and then dropped back over, followed by a second roll attempt when the same thing happened. I put my bow in place for a rescue but you’d obviously had enough by then. My first thought was that you weren’t hip-flicking and were trying to muscle it back up with the paddle.

When you capsized deliberately the same thing happened, but I was too busy laughing to give it any real analysis

. As you know, I filmed it, so I’ll post this tonight (if you don’t mind) and you can have a look yourself, but I had a quick look last night and I think you are right, in that you are doing a normal screw roll, but then half-way round you can’t get any further and it all comes to a stop, that would be the throw-line in the small of your back stopping you leaning any further back. I guess a series of trial rolls (when the weather warms up) with & without the bag would prove this.

The options would be to adopt a C-to-C roll or a C1-type roll where you scull forward when you’re half way up (or maybe just ditch the utility belt).

I thought it was very good of you to provide this demonstration that even the more experienced & qualified club members can swim twice within 5 minutes on flat water

. No doubt I will soon be adding a similar confession to the list, in which case I too will claim some sort of equipment-based mitigation. I don’t think you’re crap (not that crap anyway).
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CarlS · Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 2:37 pm Post subject:

Thanks Steve for your nice comments. I could try to use a C1 type roll or the C-to-C but I think I will just ditch the utility belt as I prefer to screw.
Carl

Steve T · Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 5:38 pm Post subject:

Oh dear .......
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Steve T · Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 7:17 pm Post subject:

Here is the evidence.... (sorry, that should be the video for critical analysis)

(Sorry about the music, couldn't really resist!)

Steve
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DaveS · Joined: 08 Nov 2007 Posts: 122 Location: Urmston

I cant help wondering if you had the "Carl-Cam" running at that point, maybe it could shed some extra light on the dificulties you were having? (and maybe a few extra laughs as well) Maybe it was the extra weight of the cam on the helmet that stopped you coming up anyway?

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Steve T · Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 1:38 pm Post subject:

Now you've done it, he was saving that excuse for next time!
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Steve T · Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 9:07 am Post subject:

Apparently that embedded video from Photobucket doesn't work for everyone; I think you need Flash Player but I'm not clever enough to know what the problem really is.

Looks like I'll have to join Carl & all the other kids and join YouTube.

Steve
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Steve T · Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 5:43 pm Post subject:

OK, see if this works:

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CarlS · Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 5:56 pm Post subject:

Yes You Tube works very well and it is clear from the video that my failure to roll was 100 percent down to that utility belt!